1. Don't Start By Sourcing Your Cement on Alibaba. Alibaba can be a great resource but there are too many jokers/losers wanna be cement agents lurking there. All the cement prices you see there are far too low.
2. There is a Cement Shortage EVERYWHERE. Europe is short cement, Africa is short cement. This is your basic first economics class: low supply + high demand = high cost.
3. Cement from China can be obtained...again be wary of the con...and you never know: there is a lesson to be learned from the lead laden Barbie doll story. Get a good contact on the ground that speaks your language.
4. The price of cement itself at the factory door may not be expensive...but did you think a cement carrier was cheap? Easy to get your hands on? They aren't fueled by thin air. The cost of such a vessel varies daily as well.
Lesson Over
To be Frank: I don't earn my keep from this blog. I trade commodities (especially cement) and I represent a few Chinese cement factories. I am happy to give further assistance. Post a message if you want. I don't post my email here anymore. There is too much junk that lands in my inbox when I do.
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Hey,
Am doing some research into the price of cement in Uganda compared to other countries nationally. Are you able to give me (or tell me where I could find) some approximate prcies for a 50kg bag? Preferably a couple of countries in East Africa, and some dotted around the globe, ie China, India, US etc.... Really appreciate your help,
Peter
Hello,
I find your Blog interesting as I am trying to enter the cement world. I would like to learn more about the business and find a way to enter the industry.
Would you be able to assist in any way?
Please advise,
thank you in advance,
Luis
Hello
Saw your comments on the perils of Alibaba etc and agree that I have found same trend.A lot of people all wanting strings of bank docs and no secrets revealed and no certain country of origin.
We are a serious company in Mozambique looking for a supplier to send us a ship(12500 to 20 000 tons with a two port delivery(Beira and Maputo)every six to eight weeks with ongoing contract.
We are a retailer with our own shops and currently sell cement.If we do a deal we want to know the factory,we want a realtionship to know we can trust as to move away from our current supplier without long term commitment from a supplier can be very unhealthy for our company.
In China lots of special prices but no shippers and so the story goes on.
Please contact me if you can help.kevin@construa.co.mz
Hello
Saw your comments on the perils of Alibaba etc and agree that I have found same trend.A lot of people all wanting strings of bank docs and no secrets revealed and no certain country of origin.
We are a serious company in Mozambique looking for a supplier to send us a ship(12500 to 20 000 tons with a two port delivery(Beira and Maputo)every six to eight weeks with ongoing contract.
We are a retailer with our own shops and currently sell cement.If we do a deal we want to know the factory,we want a realtionship to know we can trust as to move away from our current supplier without long term commitment from a supplier can be very unhealthy for our company.
Please contact me if you can help.kevin@construa.co.mz
Dear Samuel
Nice blog and interesting to see that someone does a job with passion. I can see that because you go travelling around to find reliable sources and make long term relationships with serious partners. Its my way of doing business as well.
Making business with people over the phone which you never saw is allways risky and time consuming. Communication, trust and knowledge makes the deal come true.
I understand totally that you dont want to publish your email but is it possible to get some advice from you without the whole world reading it?
Like to hear from you
Best regards
ralph
justme1@gmx.ch (;-) my spam mail for first mail contact)
Do you give advice to someone who is really in need of an
i am interstedin buying cement from China Pl adv ramvis@gmail.com
Hi Samuel
It's great that you offer advice to newbies like myself, because most traders are too busy chasing the Big Deal to give a shit for their fellow humans. I've been trading commodity futures for some time now, but I'm itching to get involved in trading the real thing. Oil is too politicized, so I'm looking at cement. This means I have to fly to China or Malaysia to find a decent supplier that can live up to specifications and delivery. I haven't a clue where to start my research, because on the net you don't know who are the sheisters and who are real. Any suggestions as to where I can start looking for a good supplier?
Many thanks
Gabriel Erasmus, South Africa
Hi Samuel
Forgot to leave a mail address,in case you had time to e-mail me. (Hey, I'm an optimist!)
Gabriel Erasmus, South Africa
kolibritrading@gmail.com
Hi Sam,
We are also active Cement Traders, and over the years have invest in several Cement Plants. I would like to discuss the trade further with you. It is always good to find traders such as yourself - who know the REAL market and know how real pricing works. Please email me to discuss this further.
saa_uk1@hotmail.com [this is for spam, then I will email you my full contact details]
Thanks and look forward to hearing from you.
Zara
Hi Sam!
Thank you for the blog. We are a small firma from Germany and as we are emigrants from Russia and Ukrain we have many Customers from the countries. Six monthes we trying to find a real volumes of portland cemert CEM I 42,5 N or R but we cannot find a real supplier. The situation is more difficult as our customers don't want to buy cement from China. And all Internet is full with offers for the cement from Ukrain and Russia. This is bullshit. It was 3 years ago. Today no export from these countries only import. And one more advice: when you see an offer for selling million tons with exact chemical composition this is nonsence too. Every plant has it's own composition of cement and noone plant will give you whole year quantity. So you have to buy from several plants.
If anybody can offer us the real cement from concrete plant in the phase of negotiation but not after the LC opening pls send us a message. Our Email gerbhandel@gmail.com
One more lot of thanks to you, Sam. Your blog is a drop of good sence in the bucket of nonsence in Internet cement trading.
Borys and Akim from "GERB HANDEL" (Germany)
Thank you for the blos - it is very informative.
We have a request to import cement into Russia on the condition of FOB and in need of a reliable supplier. Volume - 500K Tons/Annualy with the potential increase in volume. It is actually negotiable as they can start low.
If you feel its a match and we can do busienss, drop me a line at mishapiter@yahoo.com.
Thanks.
Hi Sam. Although I have sufficient experience in the use of cement due to the industry I am in, I am a relative newbie trader/broker. I've made the observation you stated, i.e. too many fakes & cons on Alibaba & throughout the web.
I would like to find some reliable sources. Please email me and I can provide more details.
np7691@gmail.com
Dear Sam
Your blog is really enlightening indeed and fits my problem like a fist on the eye! We are a company making some research for a client of ours who wants to import a large amount of cement to the East for a big project. We are talking >500k metric tons. The client has an offer on the table but it looks to good to be true even though the paper work seems reliable. As you mentioned the rule should be: demand going up, supply shortening, result high prices. In this case however vis versa seems to be the case. I would like to hear your opinion on some elements that seem doggy to me. Any possibility we can get in contact besides using the blog?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Best regards,
Marcel
netpeople@bluemail.ch (spam mail for first contact)
Please Contact to AS Cement A.S. which is the biggest cement plant in Turkey for your cement needs
We are ready for exporting cement and clinker
More Details :
Mr Goksel Aybek
+90 248 331 30 00
goksel.aybek@ascimento.com.tr
halim.tekkesin@ascimento.com.tr
most inquiries on alibaba are time wasters. where do the real buyers trade?
email:
survey28@verizon.net
Hi If anybody would like to talk to a company that can actually supply the cement they say they can, then please do not hesitate to contact myself on +971509118534 or via email at akitim@hotmail.co.uk.
Kindest regards,
Jason.
Hi Claire, i notice your post was in 2007. Do you still represent the Chinese factories? I need some urgent assistance.
Abe
dmxxmd1@yahoo.com
Hi,
I am a lawyer by profession and with a team of South Africans and Mozambiques are incorporating a company in Mozambique to import cement.Please assist in linking us with manufacturers in China (even Indonesia and Vietnam)who are reliable, honest, and have reasonable prices to supply a minimum of 50 000 metric tons per month. My emails: bonginkosi.mfusi@pbmr.co.za / bmfusi@yahoo.com
Hi Claire, having researched and spent many months in the cement industry , there are so many time wasters, i have direct supply now but finding a hoest a reliable buyer is hard, typical hey sometimes you need supply sometimes the demand, wel if you have any potential buyers please post and we can talk.,
As we AS Cement can supply cement with large quantities
Pls see our websites
www.ascimento.com.tr
www.oilwellcement.com
Regards
Halim Tekkeşin
Stumbled along this blog while surfing on the web. If anyone in the North Africa, Middle East, Russia and South Eastern European region is having problems finding a real supplier, please contact me at yaerim@aryaexport.com. We deal with only serious buyers so please have the necessary paperwork ready. Been doing this for 7 years so I know bullshit when I smell it.
Regards,
Yusuf
Oh, by the way. Talked with several high level cement guys and buyers expecting the annual August/September price drop are in for a rude awakening. US Dollar weakness is going to keep cement prices high this fall and winter.
Hello
We are Direct Seller For Cement and Clinker , Real Prices .
For Estimate Price ,
1) Type of cement requested
2) Type of bags requested
3) Quantities per month
4) Size of vessels
5) Unloading port and unloading rate (Full Port Name)
6) Target price in CIF basis
With this information, we should be able to quote you.
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